MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
MASSILLON CITY COUNCIL
HELD, MONDAY, JULY 16, 2012 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER B I'd like to welcome all of you to Massillon City Council for Monday, July 16, 2012.  We have several city officials with us this evening Mayor Catazaro-Perry, Safety Service Director Maier, Building Superintendant Bill Kraft, Auditor Ferrero and Law Director Stergios.  Also under item #5 on the agenda is where the public can speak on any item that appears on the agenda and then under item #17 is where the public can speak on any item that does not appear on the agenda.  I'd also like to remind anyone with a cell phone please turn it off or turn it very far down.  

1.  ROLL CALL

Roll call for the evening found the following Council Members present:  Milan Chovan, Sarita Cunningham-Hedderly, Nancy Halter, Ed Lewis, Paul Manson, Donnie Peters, Andrea Scassa, Larry Slagle and Tony Townsend.

Thus giving a roll call vote of 9 present.

2. INVOCATION

COUNCILMAN CHOVAN Gave the invocation for tonight.  

3.  PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

COUNCILMAN CHOVAN – Chairman of the Police and Fire Committee led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance.  

4.  READING OF THE JOURNAL

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER - Madame Clerk, are the minutes of the previous meeting transcribed and open for public viewing?  (Yes, they are)  Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes?  If not the minutes stand approved as written.     

5.  REMARKS OF DELEGATIONS AND CITIZENS TO MATTERS ON THE AGENDA

LINDA BUSH – My address is 1820 Cyprus Drive SE in Massillon.  I’m a housing provider for the City of Massillon; I have no problems registering my properties with the city my properties are registered with Stark County.  I do feel however that the $30 registration fee per unit is excessive.  You are asking me to pay a $30 registration fee so that a clerk will enter my properties into your data base which should take 5 to 10 minutes of the clerk’s time.  What you’re really asking me is for responsible property owners like myself to pay a registration fee that will be used by the city to search for landlords that do not keep their properties up to code.  I realize this city is in a financial emergency as a business person in this city I pay city income tax, property taxes and sewer bills on all my properties the margin of profit is slim.  By asking us to pay this registration fee you are taxing me again.  Go after the property owners in Massillon that are two years delinquent in their taxes and sewer bills.  Thank you.

NANNETTE RADEL – I live at 2473 Valleywood NE, Massillon.  I’m here this evening to represent the concerned and frustrated neighbors on Valleywood Drive along with myself.  I would like to address a different perspective pertaining to the Ordinance No. 48.  I have copies of documents relating to this issue if you would like to have pass those around you’re free to keep those.  Thank you.  We have a seven year frustrating problem with an abandoned home on our street.  The owners vacated their house in August of 2005 due to it being uninhabitable in the house.  I assure you the owners are not in financial straits and I can safely say the house is actually unsellable at this point.  The house is rotting from the inside out.  It is not only an eyesore but it could be hazardous to the other homes in the area a fire a gas leak or any other dangerous event or health hazard could put us in jeopardy.  The homeowner does have no plans for the future to change or do anything with this house except to use it as a storage unit.  As homeowners we work hard to protect our investment as property values have gone down due to the economy this situation has made it worse for us all.  We feel that the owner of this house is literally stealing from us.  The interior and the exterior of the house will only get worse in time.  We have been patient and our patience is running out.  As council members you do have the hard task to fiscally bring the city back strong and I want to thank all of you for that.  In a sense you are the marketing department of the city we need to attract people to want to live here and to stay in the City of Massillon.  City housing codes need to be enforced, followed through and the necessary action taken.  As you will see from the documents that I have provided the process was started but the ball was dropped on it.  We as taxpayers deserve better than this.  Thank you so much.

ALEXANDRA NICHOLIS COON – I live at 2166 Mohler Dr NW, North Canton, Ohio.  I’m here this evening representing the Massillon Museum regarding the renewal of tax to maintain and operate a free museum that celebrates and preserves the city’s cultural history, its material past and the artistic and historic legacy that we’re providing now for the future.  Thank you, we really appreciate the support that the city and the community have given us for the past 25 years and hope we can maintain this for the future generations.  Thank you.

6.  INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS

ORDINANCE NO. 76 - 2012                      BY:   COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE  

Authorizing the Mayor of the City of Massillon, Ohio, to enter into an amended agreement with Habitat for Humanity of Greater Stark & Carroll Counties to utilize Neighborhood Stabilization Program (NSP) funding to build three new single family homes in the City of Massillon, and declaring an emergency.

 

COUNCILMAN MANSON – Yes, we had to have a correction here initially back in April we passed Ordinance No. 42 – 2012 authorizing the development agreement with the Massillon Habitat and to use NSP funds for four new homes.  But we were a little short of revenue so that has been cut back to three.  It still says four though doesn’t it?  Oh my sorry, what am I missing here?  It says which was oh to authorize four new homes.  I’m sorry I started reading in the middle.  Okay, but there’s not enough funding for four so they are reducing that back to three.  Build three new single family homes I’m sorry I was down in the middle of the paragraph so Ted Herncane was here the other night and explained what happened.  We want to move ahead on these and get these moving this summer so I will be moving for passage if there are unless there aren’t any questions we can’t answer and we need to talk about it further. 

COUNCILMAN MANSON moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilwoman Scassa.

The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes.

ORDINANCE NO. 76 – 2012 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES.

ORDINANCE NO. 77 - 2012                      BY:   FINANCE COMMITTEE 

Making certain appropriations from the unappropriated balance of the 1207 NSP Fund, Summer Concert Fund, Insurance Fund and the Safety Forces Improvement Fund, for the year ending December 31, 2012, and declaring an emergency.

 

COUNCILMAN PETERS – This ordinance has four sections I’ll go through them very quickly unless there’s any questions and we’ll get them answered.  The first section is to appropriate from the unappropriated balance of the 1207 NSP fund for the year ending December 31.  This is the $189,000 to the account to the account entitled NSP housing activities.  These are for the this is for the Habitat for Humanity homes of course the amount has changed because of the number of homes has changed like Mr. Councilman Manson had said.  If there’s any questions we can get them answered I don’t think there were any though.  Mr. Herncane answered them on Monday.  The next section is to appropriate from the unappropriated balance of the summer concert fund for the year ending December 31, 2012.  $9,000 to an account entitled summer concert series entertainment and $1,000 to an account entitled summer concert series supplies.  Reminder like I said Monday there’s $26,500 in that account funds that were raised by private individuals and donors and so forth none of the city’s money is being spent for this.  Section 3 is to appropriate from the unappropriated balance of the insurance fund for the year ending December 31.  $9,681 to an account entitled employees insurance.  The auditor can correct me if I’m wrong but this is cobra payments you know that are received and then we have to appropriate that money that was received and put it in and pay the insurance.  Section 4 to appropriate from the unappropriated balance of the safety forces improvement fund for the ending December 31.  This is from Judge Elum and this is $5,000 to an account entitled supplies and materials and that is it.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER B Are there any questions for any of these items?  Mr. Chovan?

COUNCILMAN CHOVAN – Thank you.  The $5,000 for supplies and materials refresh my memory is that for the transport van is that what was for?

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Yes, yes, it’s for the Massillon Jail transport van its repairs for it. 

COUNCILMAN PETERS moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Slagle.

The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes.

ORDINANCE NO. 77 – 2012 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES.

RESOLUTION NO. 13 - 2012                    BY:   FINANCE COMMITTEE 

Providing for the submitting to the electors of the City of Massillon at a General Election to be held on November 6, 2012, the question of the approval of the issue of a renewal of a one (1) mill operating levy to provide funding for the Massillon Museum which is operated by the Massillon Museum, Inc., a non-profit corporation, and declaring an emergency.

 

COUNCILMAN PETERS – I’d like to start by calling the law director up Mr. Stergios if possible.  Thank you, Mr. Stergios, just the only question I have is I got an email saying there was a typo but it never really explained to me or I missed it what the typo was and is that a big deal?

LAW DIRECTOR STERGIOS – In the packet you have tonight the typo was has been corrected.  So you’re a couple emails behind.  I don’t think anyone ever mailed you the correction but in section 1 where it says commencing currently in the packet that went out Friday I think it said commending so we just corrected.  The one we got tonight or at least the one I received tonight is corrected. 

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Okay, so we do not need to act any differently than I mean we don’t have to change…

LAW DIRECTOR STERGIOS – No, it was a grammatical correction is all it was.  It didn’t change the intent or anything like that. 

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Okay, that was my only question. 

LAW DIRECTOR STERGIOS – Okay, thank you.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER B Mr. Manson, was your hand up?

COUNCILMAN MANSON – No.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER B Okay, are there any other questions?  Mr. Peters?

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Okay, so this resolution is providing to submit to the electors of the City of Massillon at a General Election to be held on November 6, 2012, the question of the approval of the issue of a renewal of a one (1) mill operating levy to provide funding for the Massillon Museum which is operated by the Massillon Museum, Inc., a non-profit corporation, and declaring an emergency. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER B We need a motion.

COUNCILMAN PETERS – I’d like to make a motion that we put Resolution No. 13 – 2012 forward do I have to waive the rules?

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER B You need to suspend.

COUNCILMAN PETERS moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Manson.

The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes.

RESOLUTION NO. 13 – 2012 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES.

RESOLUTION NO. 14 - 2012                    BY:   COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE 

Reversing the decision of the Massillon Zoning Board of Appeals made on June 14, 2012 wherein the Zoning Board of Appeals approved a variance from the Massillon Zoning Code for a proposed in-ground pool at 1721 Coventry Rd NE., on Parcel No. 605610 in the City of Massillon, and declaring an emergency.

 

COUNCILMAN MANSON – Yes, we discussed this at last week’s committee meeting.  This is a variance that was approved by the Zoning Board of Appeals and Mr. Custer is appealing that decision as you can read here.  I asked that everybody go take a look at that you can look at the sketch that’s there.  It’s pretty accurate I believe I’ve been up there several times myself looking at it.  We have a corner lot that’s not square and we all know there are problems with our side setbacks when we have corner lots.  The code is the same as for front setbacks but it does make for kind of awkward lots at times.  My own opinion is if that was my neighbor I would have no problem with where he wants to put that pool.  So my intent is unless there is any real serious objections here and I hope everybody you know brings them out if you have any but if not I intend to move this forward tonight.  But if there are some serious questions that we need answered we can give it first reading.  So…

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Do we have any questions?  Mr. Manson?

COUNCILMAN MANSON moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Peters.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Now again would you like to explain the double negative involved here?

COUNCILMAN MANSON – Yeah, let me explain this we’re not voting on whether or not that pool goes in we’re voting on the appeal of the variance being approved.  So what we want to do is turn the appeal down so a no vote would be what I’m recommending that we do after we waive the rules, yes, thank you, Mr. Slagle.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – The first vote will be to waive the rules we’re looking for yes votes and the second vote is for passage the chairman has recommended a no vote. 

COUNCILMAN MANSON – If you intend to support the appeal you vote yes or otherwise vote no and that would uphold the Zoning Board of Appeals action.

The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes.

RESOLUTION NO. 14 – 2012 WAS DEFEATED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 NO.

7.  UNFINISHED BUSINESS

8.  PETITIONS AND GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS

LETTER FROM OHIO DIVISION OF LIQUOR CONTROL REGARDING A TRANSFER OF LIQUOR LICENSE FROM TAMMY S BIEHL DBA AMERICAN PATRIOTS CLUB 1316 TREMONT AVE SW 1ST FL & BSMT MASSILLON OHIO 44647 TO PATRICK W BAGLEY DBA OLD TIMERS BAR & GRILL 1316 TREMONT AVE SW 1ST FL & BSMT MASSILLON OHIO 44647.

9.  BILLS, ACCOUNTS AND CLAIMS

A).  REPOSITORY - $671.32

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mr. Peters?

COUNCILMAN PETERS – I make a motion we pay the bill, seconded by Councilman Slagle.

Roll call vote of 9 yes to pay the bill.

10.  REPORTS FROM CITY OFFICIALS

A). TREASURER SUBMITS MONTHLY REPORT FOR JUNE 2012 B COPY FILE
B).  MAYOR SUBMITS MONTHLY REPORT FOR MAY 2012
C).  MAYOR’S APPOINTMENT TO THE INCOME TAX REVIEW BOARD

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – We have several reports from the city officials the treasurer and the mayor have each submitted reports.  There’s also an appointment to the Income Tax Review Board this is a three year term we’ve been advised that council does need to accept this.  So I will look to Mr. Peters to make a motion one way or the other.

COUNCILMAN PETERS – I’d like to make a motion to accept the appointment of the mayor’s income tax review board. 

Roll call vote of 9 yes for the appointment of John Tillapaw to the Income Tax Review Committee. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mr. Peters, with your permission we’ll insert the name of the appointee in the official minutes.

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Okay, yeah, I didn’t catch the name and I didn’t get a copy of that.  Well, I did but I didn’t look at it. 

11.  REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – The committee session is in two weeks next week is the fourth Monday of five.  So don’t show up here but come back on the 30th   

12.  RESOLUTIONS AND REQUESTS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Is there any report, resolution or request from any council member?  Mr. Slagle?

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – Just advising the public that the rec. department meeting of last Thursday has been moved to this Wednesday at 6:00pm at the rec. center so Wednesday at 6:00pm.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mr. Lewis?

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – In reference to Resolution No. 14 I didn’t bring it up because it didn’t affect my personal vote but I would like to I would assume it would be health, welfare and building regulations.  I’m thinking maybe they should look over the ordinance that would affect the side lots or those corner lots that makes it so they can’t build their fences out there.  It seems like this might be a question that comes up and we don’t have anything in place and we’re going to continue to have these appeals.  Maybe they can review it and see if there’s some way a language could be written that would alleviate this issue for people who have these corner lots that would be great. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – That’s a good suggestion we always do have trouble with corner lots because both frontages are considered front yards.  Its up depending how the house is positioned which becomes the front yard, which becomes the side yard.  As far as the community development committee that is in the city code in terms of who handles the appeal but in terms of you know following through on a change to the code there again that would come under community development because it involves zoning. 

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – Whatever committee I just think at least take a look and see if there’s anything we can do to clean that up a little bit.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Okay and Mr. Manson, we expect a full report in two weeks.

COUNCILMAN MANSON – Now I’m on vacation.  No, we’ll take a look I’ll ask the building department if they have recommendations on it I think that’s the best that I can do to start with. 

13.  CALL OF THE CALENDAR

14.  THIRD READING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS

15. SECOND READING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS

ORDINANCE NO. 48 - 2012                      BY:   HEALTH, WELFARE & BLDG REGULATIONS

Enacting a new CHAPTER 1331 “REGISTRATION OF VACANT BUILDINGS”, of the Codified Ordinances of the City of Massillon.

 

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – After last week’s work session we made a few adjustments and a couple of amendments took a few words out put a couple words in.  But basically this ordinance stayed pretty much the same.  Tonight I plan on asking for you to vote I’m making a motion for you to accept the amendments to Ordinance No. 48 – 2012. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER –  Did you just make a motion? 

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – Yes, I did.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – And the motion was for to amend?

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – To amend Ordinance No. 48 – 2012.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Alright we do have a motion to amend do we have a second?  Seconded by Councilwoman Scassa.  This ordinance obviously had been amended at last meeting and given first reading we are now amending again.  Everyone should have a copy of what looks like two pages, page 1 on the bottom right says revised 7/16/12.  Does everyone either have a hard copy or an email for that?

COUNCILMAN MANSON – I don’t have that. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Did everyone receive an email?

COUNCIL CLERK BAILEY  – Yes.

COUNCILMAN MANSON – I’m sure it went out in email but I don’t have a copy of it here.

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Even I got one. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Even Mr. Peters received the email that’s proof enough for me that you all got it. 

COUNCILMAN MANSON – I didn’t say I didn’t get the email but I don’t have a copy with me.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Alright we have a motion and a second to amend the ordinance as per the information given to you.  Are there questions on this?  Mr. Slagle?

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – My question to the chairman of the committee Mrs. Halter is 30 days still remaining in this?  As I understand it.

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – It’s 30 you have 30 days to register the property you don’t its not 30 days to since we changed it for oh wait a minute.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Ms. Halter, is that 1331.03(a)?

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – Yes.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – On the first page?

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – Okay, yes, 30 days from the date of your last occupancy you have to register the building.  Doesn’t mean it has to be filled with people it just means you have to register its vacant.

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – And I’ve already expressed my opposition to such a short period of time.  So and I think every landlord I’ve talked to has expressed opposition to that.  The legislation itself is an excellent idea I just think that getting it so quickly in terms of the occupancy is a problem.  So…

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mr. Lewis?

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – My confusion here is why we’re stuck on the 30 days.  I thought we solved that last meeting when we adjusted the language to state vacant and unattended with the purpose of unattended mean that if a landlord was in there making renovations for the next potential renter then he would not have to register or pay that.  So really the 30 days is insignificant if you’re a landowner that’s continuing to rent and work on your property and working on it to be rented out.  You would fall under the attendant clause you won’t to 30 days won’t matter to you.  You can attend to it for three months if you wanted to. 

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – That is that was changed under (g) the letter (g) the fee for each year or fraction thereof for which such vacant and unattended building units are registered. 

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – The only possible recommendation I could make if we wanted to is maybe put a definition of what unattended means.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – I was going to ask I’m not sure I know what unattended means.  Ms. Halter, may we call the law director forward?

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – Yes, Mr. Stergios.

LAW DIRECTOR STERGIOS – I don’t even the next the newest amended version of the ordinance. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – I’ve got it for you.  I think we all understand vacant what is unattended?

LAW DIRECTOR STERGIOS – Change it to 90 days or 6 months or something I don’t know what unattended is to be honest.  I never even seen the latest changes till just now so I…30 days is unreasonable we can’t do a street vacation in 30 days how can you expect I mean if you want my personal opinion I don’t know what unattended means.  But I honestly don’t I’m not being smart I…

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – No, it’s a new one to me too Mrs. Halter do you know and Mr. Lewis brought it up.  Mrs. Halter, we’re back to you, you have a motion to amend as per this document.

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – I’d like to call Mr. Maier up please?

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Thank you, Mr. Stergios.

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – Thank you, Mr. Stergios.  Mr. Maier, I think that I would like you to you made a comment at the last work session about babysitting houses for ninety days.  Could you expand on that?

SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR MAIER – I think there was some discussion at the last work session regarding the 30 days and I know there was some heartburn over 30 days being too short a period of time with the language that followed saying vacant.  I think there was some discussion then about changing the language to say vacant or unattended.  If you pull into the gas station Mr. President, and a servant comes out to pump your gas that’s an attendant they’re attending to you.  So I don’t know if we need I thought that the law director was going to give us a legal description but he gave us his opinion.  So but I think that what we need is somebody to tell us what attended means.  I think attended means that somebody is tending to that property, but that’s not a legal description that’s also my opinion. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – I think perhaps the word would be unoccupied. 

SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR MAIER – Well, it says unoccupied and/or unattended is what they changed it to. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Are there any other questions for Mr. Maier?  Mr. Lewis?

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – For Mr. Maier no, but I think just,,,

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Hold on one second Mr. Slagle, you have a question for Safety Service Director Mr. Maier?

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – What’s the legal definition of unoccupied in this statute?

SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR MAIER – What’s the legal definition of unoccupied?

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – Of unoccupied.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – We have the building official here.

SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR MAIER – Is this a test? 

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – Well no, I mean the problem is these are very vague terms.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – He does not know we do have the building official.  Is there anyone else with a question for Mr. Maier?  Thank you, sir. Would you like to call up Mr. Kraft?  You still have the floor.

COUNCILMAN SLAGLE – Well, I don’t think they can give me the answer.  It should be in the ordinance in my opinion. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Alright, again generally at the beginning of each chapter in our code book there is a list of definitions.  Those definitions then follow through whether there’s one section or a hundred sections.  So it’s not defined in every section of the ordinance but it is defined at the beginning.  Mr. Manson?

COUNCILMAN MANSON – Yes, mine is a comment more now I’ve listened to thinks you know about the 30 days and I’ve also listened about the fees that would apply to 49.  We’ve amended these ordinances at least twice now I don’t know maybe more.  But my thinking is whether than sitting here and trying to resolve this another reading and discuss it at a committee meeting to try to clear all this up would be more appropriate than trying to define everything right here.  I just think its showing that we the confusion that we have with it.  Probably because of that I won’t be supporting it I think some more of these questions need answered.  I said before from the beginning I’ve had more phone calls and communications on these two than any ordinance I’ve had in a long time.  It is about being clear and I don’t think things are totally clear when we just we met at last meeting now we’re amending again this meeting without some serious around the table you know conversation.  I think that what we should do is just give it first reading and have that conversation. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mr. Lewis?

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – With that said I would recommend to the committee that possibly withdrawing the motion to amend then either the committee can put a definition for unattended because I think we understand what the spirit of unattended is but if we need a definition we can either put it in this ordinance or maybe rules and courts committee can put something at the beginning.  You had stated that there might have been a definition section of the ordinances.  We can insert it there whatever it takes to make this issue of unattended go away.  That might be a quick resolve to this issue. 

COUNCILMAN PETERS – Never going to be a quick resolve to this issue.

COUNCILMAN LEWIS – Well a quicker resolve.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mr. Chovan, your hand up?

COUNCILMAN CHOVAN – Yes, for the last few weeks I mean I’ve made it clear that I still don’t see why we have these fees with registration.  I can certainly see the penalties for the people that do not comply.  But I asked the question last week and I asked before this meeting today to be clear that these fees will not be used for salaries to hire people for the department even on a temporary basis to do key punching, to do data entry.  So I guess I don’t see the purpose I guess I agree with Ms. Bush her comments prior to this.  I don’t see why we need to have fees in when you register I would rather see use penalties for people that do not follow the regulation.  That’s just my opinion and as long as the fees are in there I’ll vote no.  I just want to make that clear I think the legislation is great I think e need it but I don’t agree with the fees.  So whatever we amend I’ll just tell you now that would be my vote if there are fees in here. 

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Mrs. Halter, we’re back to you.

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – I just want to comment that Mr. Manson said about we need we discussed this last Monday for over an hour before we came to these amendments.  So its not that we haven’t had a round table discussion which we did last Monday.  But having said all that we’ll give it first reading.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER –  You withdraw your motion?

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – I will withdraw my motion for the amendments, yes.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Alright, then last meeting’s amended 48 just received second reading.

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – Second reading.

ORDINANCE NO. 48 – 2012 WAS GIVEN SECOND READING.

ORDINANCE NO. 49 - 2012                      BY:   HEALTH, WELFARE & BLDG REGULATIONS

Enacting a new CHAPTER 1330 “REGISTRATION OF NON-OWNER OCCUPIED”, of the Codified Ordinances of the City of Massillon.

 

COUNCILWOMAN HALTER – Second reading.

ORDINANCE NO. 49 – 2012 WAS GIVEN SECOND READING.

16.  NEW AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS

17.  REMARKS OF DELEGATIONS AND CITIZENS TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA

COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER – Is there anyone in the audience who like to address council on any topic at all whether it appeared on the agenda or not?  If so please come to the microphone at this time state your name, address and state your comments. 

18.  ADJOURNMENT

COUNCILMAN CHOVAN – I move that we adjourn, seconded by all.

 

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MARY BETH BAILEY, CLERK,

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GLENN E. GAMBER, PRESIDENT

 

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